What is Oppo's take on 4 door coupes?

"Stupidru" (Schm1an) 01/31/2014 at 10:59 • Filed to: None

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Shoop > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:00

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Lower my insurance premiums? Sure!

RazoE > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:00

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They represent everything wrong with the naming convention. That said, they're gorgeous.

Gamecat235 > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:01

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They aren't coupes. Just like three wheeled bicycles are not bicycles.

Casper > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:01

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They aren't coupes. There, that's my take.

PRBot II > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:02

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They make me feel uncomfortable.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:03

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I think they look terrible and their names are stupid.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Gamecat235 01/31/2014 at 11:03

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O RLY?

/Wilbur+Orville Wright

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > PRBot II 01/31/2014 at 11:06

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How do they make you feel uncomfortable?

Did the strange car touch you? Can you show us on the doll where the strange car touched you?

Team6.1 > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:06

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According to Wikipedia: "A coupé or coupe (from the French past participle coupé , of the infinitive couper , to cut) is a closed two-door car body style with a permanently attached fixed roof. The precise definition of the term varies between manufacturers and over time. [1] The term was first applied to 19th-century carriages, where the rear-facing seats had been eliminated, or cut out"

I see these as 4 door sedans with bad roof lines (opinion), regardless of what the manufacturer wants to call them.

For Sweden > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:08

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BMW's the only company that makes an attractive one, though I'm sure I wouldn't fit into the back seat with that roof line.

Audi-os, amigos > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:09

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They're sedans.

PRBot II > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) 01/31/2014 at 11:09

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I... I can't talk about it. I trusted the Germans, and now I don't know what to think :( I need an adult.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:10

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Nice sleek sedans.

But they are not coupes.

But I have never really 'felt' the CLS... both generations look oddly melted.

A5 SportBack, or A7, or Aston Rapide (older grille) are the best ones.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:11

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Why don't they call them, "fastback sedans?"
The Audi A/S7 is the only one with looks i like

Forgetful > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:13

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We have Coupes, Cabriolets, Roadsters, Sedans, Hatchbacks, Wagons, Shooting Brakes, etc...

Surely there's an Italian or Spanish or French word that these marketing geniuses could steal to apply to these variants.

EL_ULY > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:13

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They got too Bro'd out

Milky > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:13

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Love 'em & the more the merrier.

Yea the names are bullshit, but their popularity shows that people are wiling to pay more for less as long as it looks great. And in my opinion they all look fantastic.

Granted I'm currently studying car design in school, so I'm biased. (my freshman year teacher designed the original CLS, so I'm kind of cool)

Klaus Schmoll > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:16

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O.K. before everybody starts complaining that a four door car is not a coupe, bear with me for a second.

See, a coupe (as in the French word for "cut") is a car with a lowered roofline, like this lovely Rover P5 Coupe.

Here's the regular sedan.

Now, there ARE cars that are being called coupes which aren't. Like this:

It's just a two door sedan, much like this:

merkyg > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:16

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I know that coupes specifically are two door by definition, but I don't get the general anti-4-door bias. Watching a lot of these classic resto tv shows and they pass on some really nice 4 door cars that I'd rock without a second thought... just means less footprints all over the interior where clumsy passengers get in or out.

Train > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:18

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I personally have issue with a vehicle with two rows of seats and only one door. You have to make the door so long to access the back seat that getting out of the car with another vehicle next to you is very difficult - especially if you have big feet! It's all too much of a compromise. Just get rid of the back seats! Roadsters are great, 4 door sedans are great.

thebigbossyboss > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:20

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I am not really a fan. I would rather a 2dr sedan over a 4 dr coupe. A lot of 4 door coupes I have seen look kinda weird.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Team6.1 01/31/2014 at 11:20

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Behold, a hatchback coop!

A four door wagon coop!

PS9 > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:21

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A lot of people have a problem with calling these things 'coupes', but I think the people who actually make cars should have a bigger say in what they get to be called. 'Sedans' included two door vehicles once upon a time, and naming conventions change. Language is fluid.

If manufacturers want these things to be coupes, and there's enough concencus in the industry to adjust/rewrite the terminology (and there is since one whole region's worth of manufacturer are making these things), then so be it.

PS9 > PRBot II 01/31/2014 at 11:24

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Their carnal designs do dirty things to you without your permission. But don't lie; you like it this way. You wouldn't keep coming back to them if you didn't.

Don't fight. Just give in. The discomfort will fade to pleasure with time.

Gamecat235 > Klaus Schmoll 01/31/2014 at 11:27

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Actually. You're starting too late in the argument, as the definition predates automobile usage and was an acknowledgement of the fixed roof and with a reduced number of seats (generally two + one for the driver). Early in the automobile life cycle the terminology still reflected upon the number of seats and doors and eventually it was determined by the SAE that it was the total interior volume which was the deciding factor.

http://wikicars.org/en/Coup%C3%A9

JQJ213- Now With An Extra Cylinder! > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:32

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I love the way they look... however IT IS NOT A COUPE! 4 doors= sedan 2 doors= coupe!

daender > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:33

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The Audi 7-series does the best job of pulling off the coupe-like sedan look. The Mercdes has too much rear overhang and sag and the BMW terminates the fastback roofline too soon.

dogisbadob > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:34

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The Saturn Ion and Mazda RX8 are kind of cool, but I'd probably never own either car due to reasons that have nothing to do with them being 4-door coupes.

The sedans you pictured are lame though.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:38

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Love the style, mildly dislike the name. I know it comes from the old use of the word coupe, meaning a car with a shallow-angled rear (just google Rover P4 Coupe). However, in the modern use it came to be something more specific, which was useful. This just muddies that term and makes it less useful than before.

That's unlike the CLS Shooting Brake, which is just flat-out wrong. A shooting brake is a 2-door estate by definition. The CLS is just an estate/wagon.

Gamecat235 > PS9 01/31/2014 at 11:39

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It's actually defined by the SAE as a measurement of interior volume.

The SAE distinguishes a coupé from a sedan primarily by interior volume; SAE standard J1100 defines a coupé as a fixed-roof automobile with less than 33 cubic-feet of rear interior volume. A car with a greater interior volume is technically a two-door sedan , not a coupé, even if it has only two doors. By this standard, the Chevrolet Monte Carlo , Ferrari 612 Scaglietti , and Mercedes-Benz CL-Class coupés are all two-door sedans. Only a few sources, however (including the magazine Car and Driver), use the two-door sedan label in this manner. Some car manufacturers may nonetheless choose to use the word coupé (or coupe) to describe such a model, e.g., the Cadillac Coupe de Ville .

Read more: Coupé - Wikicars
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PS9 > Gamecat235 01/31/2014 at 11:43

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Even using that, we still don't get a clear division between two and four door cars. If a two door can be a sedan, why can't a four door be a coupe?

Gamecat235 > PS9 01/31/2014 at 11:47

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It can be, according to SAE... it would just be awfully small.

gt6xxer > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 11:48

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I love them. Just please don't confuse me with nonsensical naming conventions.

Stupidru > PRBot II 01/31/2014 at 11:52

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Admit it. You like it

CobraJoe > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 12:00

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Like the looks, hate the name.

Why even bother with naming conventions if you're going to change them or ignore them or flat out lie?

Sure, naming conventions change, and that's why "Coupe" came to describe a 2 door in the first place, but what do we call a 2 door now? A 2 door Coupe? Why do we have to put modifiers on a word to define something that was previously defined by the word itself?

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 13:08

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I'm not even going to get started on this one! Nice try!

Ok, I'll say it. The SAE dictates that a certain amount of square footage in the backseat area determines coupe vs sedan.

I'M OUT

Fed(oo=[][]=oo)uken > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 16:14

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oof

NIZLE > Stupidru 01/31/2014 at 17:39

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Four door coupes don't exist.